some of that can be used for deficit reduction. would be a lot more appealing than other taxes or cuts in entitlements, those are very difficult measures. >> a cost to carbon, and the one of those proposals, do you think that happens during the second term of the obama administration? >> i hope it will. it is a long shot because of the opposition from some republicans. a secretary, secretary schulz, a secretary of state and economic adviser under nixon and reagan, he supported the idea of a tax. a lot of republicans said, let's tax carbon and use the tax money to reduce other taxes, like corporate taxes. let's do something to move the incentives away from adding more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. >> a democratic caller. >> good morning, c-span. the morning. that last caller, i am thankful for guys like you. i am appreciative. unfortunately, the message we are trying to get across is that global warming, how it affects the jet streams and the weather and how that intern causes climate change. the knuckle draggers you were ju